Gottlieb System 80

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1 Introduction

Gottlieb's second generation of solid state pinballs is System 80. Capabilities were increased in terms of controllable lamps, solenoids, gameplay, and sound. No longer tied to an EM-esque platform, Gottlieb started to introduce games with more unconventional asymmetric playfields. System 80 marked a foray into double and triple level playfields, speech, multiball; unfortunately, it also represented a step backwards in reliability, with battery corrosion, connectors, and bad grounding plaguing the design.

Once a system 80 game has been methodically gone through with board design grounding flaws and connectors corrected, they are just as reliable as any of their contemporaries.

2 Games

2.1 System 80 1st Generation

Title	Date of Release	Production#	Model #	Sound	Notes
The Amazing Spiderman	05-1980	7625	653	Sound only - Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Panthera	06-1980	5220	652	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Circus	06-1980	1700	654	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG	Ultra Widebody
Counterforce	06-1980	3870	656	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Star Race	08-1980	870	657	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG	Ultra Widebody

2.2 System 80 2nd Generation

Title	Date of Release	Production#	Model #	Sound	Notes
James Bond	10-1980	3625	658	Sound only - Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Time Line	12-1980	3167	659	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Force II	12-1981	2000	661	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Pink Panther	03-1981	2840	664	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG
Mars God of War	03-1981	5240	666	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	First Gottlieb with speech, lane change, and multi-ball Media:System80cabinet.jpg
Volcano	09-1981	3655	667	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG
Black Hole	10-1981	8774	668	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	First Gottlieb with 2-Level playing area, Export games used sound only board
Haunted House	06-1982	6835	669	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	First game with 3-Level playing area, Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Eclipse	1982	193	671	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80_sound.JPG	Production game and available as a kit for James Bond 007

2.3 System 80a

Title	Date of Release	Production#	Model #	Sound	Notes
Devil's Dare	08-1982	3832	670	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Export games may have used the sound only board - someone please confirm
Caveman	09-1982	1800	PV810	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Pinball / Video game hybrid
Rocky	09-1982	1504	672	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG
Spirit	11-1982	1230	673	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Punk!	12-1982	959	674	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Striker	11-1982	910	675	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Krull	02-1983	10	676	Unknown
Goin' Nuts	02-1983	10	682	Unknown
Q*bert's Quest	03-1983	884	677	Sound & Speech - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG
Super Orbit	05-1983	2100	680	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Royal Flush Deluxe	06-1983	2000	681	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board
Amazon Hunt	09-1983	1515	684	Sound Only- Media:Gtb_sys80&a_s&s.JPG	Sound only, but used sound & speech board. Later production games used piggyback sound board
Rack 'Em Up!	11-1983	1762	685	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Ready... Aim... Fire!	11-1983	390	686	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Jacks to Open	05-1984	2350	687	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Alien Star	06-1984	1065	689	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG	689A Denotes a revision in the ROM code
The Games	08-1984	1768	691	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Touchdown	10-1984	711	688	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
El Dorado City of Gold	09-1984	905	692	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Ice Fever	02-1985	1585	695	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG

2.4 System 80b

Title	Date of Release	Production#	Model #	Sound	Notes
Chicago Cubs Triple Play	05-1985	~1365	696	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Bounty Hunter	07-1985	1220	694	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Tag Team Pinball	09-1985	1220	698	Sound Only - Media:Gtb_sys80a&b_sound.JPG
Rock	10-1985	1875	697	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Raven	03-1986	3550	702	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Rock Encore	04-1986	245	704	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG	Production game using same playfield art as Rock, but mainly available as a conversion kit for Rock
Hollywood Heat	06-1986	3400	703	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Genesis	09-1986	3500	705	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Gold Wings	10-1986	3260	707	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Spring Break	04-1987	3550	706	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Monte Carlo	02-1987	4315	708	Sound Only - [[Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG]
Arena	06-1987	3099	709	Sound Only - Media:GTB Sys80B Sound.JPG
Victory	10-1987	3315	710	Sound and speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Diamond Lady	02-1988	2700	711	Unknown
TX Sector	03-1988	2336	712	Sound and speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Robo-War	04-1988	2130	714	Unknown - - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Excalibur	11-1988	1710	715	Unknown -- Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Bad Girls	11-1988	2500	717	Sound and speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Big House	04-1989	1977	713	Sound and speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Hot Shots	04-1989	2342	718	Sound and speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG
Bone Busters Inc.	08-1989	2000	719	Sound and Speech - Media:Gtb sys80b MA886 sound.JPG	Used 3 sound boards

Game date of release, production numbers, and model number provided by the Internet Pinball Database - http://www.ipdb.org

4 System 80 / 80A / 80B Board Set

4.1 Switch Matrix

The Gottlieb System 80 / 80A / 80B switch matrix consists of a maximum of 64 switches. There are a total of 8 switch strobes and 8 switch returns. However, not every switch in the matrix is used on every System 80 game.

Just like the System 1 switch numbering system, the System 80 switch numbers have a similar naming convention. Except, the System 80 switch numbering system is the opposite of System 1. If you are accustomed to working on System 1 games, pay close attention. With Gottlieb System 80 switches the first number of the switch is its strobe number, while the second number is switch's return number. An example would be switch 54. Switch 54 is located on strobe 5 and return 4 of the switch matrix.

	Strobe 0 (A1J6-1 / A1J5-2)	Strobe 1 (A1J6-2 / A1J5-3)	Strobe 2 (A1J6-3 / A1J5-4)	Strobe 3 (A1J6-4 / A1J5-5)	Strobe 4 (A1J6-5 / A1J5-6)	Strobe 5 (A1J6-6 / A1J5-7)	Strobe 6 (A1J6-7)	Strobe 7 (A1J6-8 / A1J5-9)
Return 0 (A1J6-10)	00	10	20	30	40	50	60	70
Return 1 (A1J6-11)	01	11	21	31	41	51	61	71
Return 2 (A1J6-12)	02	12	22	32	42	52	62	72
Return 3 (A1J6-13)	03	13	26	33	43	53	63	73
Return 4 (A1J6-14)	04	14	24	34	44	54	64	74
Return 5 (A1J6-15)	05	15	25	35	45	55	65	75
Return 6 (A1J6-16 / A1J5-8)	06	16	26	36	46	56	66	76
Return 7 (A1J6-17 / A1J5-1)	07	17	27	37	47	57	67	77

4.1.1 The "Missing" Gottlieb System 80 Switches

With the Gottlieb System 80 series of games, there are some switch assignments that are designated the same throughout the System 80, 80A, and 80B platforms. These switches are typically not listed in the switch matrix portion of the manual. You have to review the cabinet schematics, and decipher what switches use what return and strobe. However, it appears that Gottlieb / Premier changed this section of the schematic starting with Excalibur or Bad Girls by no longer listing the strobes for these switches. So, below are the "missing" switch assignments for any Sys80B. All the info applies for Sys80 and Sys80A, except the two advance buttons, which weren't used prior to Sys80B.

06 - left advance button (Sys80B only)

07 - play / test switch

16 - right advance button (Sys80B only)

17 - left coin switch

27 - right coin switch

37 - center coin switch

47 - replay button

57* - plumb bob and ball roll tilts (these have the same switch assignment as the playfield tilt switch)

• Black Hole is one exception. The switch assigned for the tilt on Black Hole is 26.

Note: The coin door slam switch is not part of the switch matrix.

4.1.2 Setting up a Game for Free Play

Early Gottileb solid state pinball machines, prior to 1990, did not have a free play option available within the game settings. With this simple modification, a game can be set up for free play. First, identify the diode strip in the bottom of the cabinet. Once the diode strip is found, locate the credit button and coin switch strobe line wires. The wires will be located on the left of the diode strip - the non-banded side of the diodes. Below is a list of the wires.

Credit button wire - Green-Yellow-Yellow

Left coin switch wire - Green-Brown-Brown

Center coin switch wire - Green-Orange-Orange

Right coin switch wire - Green-Red-Red

Gottlieb System 80 Transformer Board

Solder a small lead wire from the credit button wire to any of the coin switch wires. Make certain that the diode, credit button wire, and coin switch wire are still soldered securely to the diode strip terminal when finished. If soldering is not an option, use a small alligator clip test lead. Now, when the credit button is pressed, a credit will be incremented and decremented. A game can be easily started without the need to open the coin door to trip the coin switches anymore.

Please note that this modification does not apply to Gottlieb System 80A and System 80B machines. System 80A and 80B machines use diode boards with edge connections, which are typically located on the cabinet wall near the left flipper cabinet switch. In my experience, jumpering the diodes on System 80A and 80B games do not give the intended free play results of jumpered System 80 diodes. I attribute this to the System 80A and 80B software reading the switch matrix differently.

4.3 CPU Board

4.3.1 Slam Switch Modification

In order to test the CPU board on the test bench a modification must be made to the CPU board to permanently connect the slam switch. If the slam switch is not connected the machine will not complete the boot process and go to a very basic mode.

Slam Switch Fix

Gottlieb designed the slam switch as a closed switch. That is the switch must be closed for the machine to operate normally. When a brute kicks the machine, the slam switch will open from the force, and the slam registered. Since the CPU is on the bench, we need a way to have this switch closed at all times to properly test the board.

The slam can be permanently closed by making a small solder bridge near two traces near chip Z26 on the lower right of the CPU board. To permanently close the switch remove the the trace mask by scraping with a sharp knife and then creating a solder bridge between the two traces. This change will connect pin 13 of Z26 to ground permanently closing the switch.

5 Problems and Fixes

5.1 Power Driver Issues

This may not apply to some, as MPU might have been part of it.

5.2 MPU Issues

5.2.1 Using An Old Computer Power Supply For Bench Testing

A MPU board is much easier to work on if it is removed from the backbox and placed on the test bench. An old computer power supply can be used to power the MPU board for testing on the bench.

Obtain and old computer power supply from an old computer. If you don't have an old computer setting around head on off to the thrift store and pick one up. Remove the power supply from the case by unscrewing the appropriate screws. Careful not to unscrew the power supply case itself.

Power Supply

Cut off one of the connectors from the power supply and clearly mark on the power supply box the value of each of the colored wires from the power supply. The Yellow wire is 12V, the red 5V and the black is ground. Strip off part of each of the wires. To put the MPU on the test bench you will only need one of the ground wires and the 5v (red) line. To hook up the power supply I have alligator clips that I connect to the 5v and ground line and to the corresponding J1 connection. I use larger alligator clips to make the connection.

J1 Connector

Mark the MPU board where the positive and negative (common) connection is for the five volts from the computer power supply. This is marked on connector J1. The image shows the A1J1 connector with the markings. I took the picture with the board still mounted in the machine. Connect the 5v supply with alligator clips to the positive connector on J1 and the black wire (ground) to the negative connector of J1. That's it, your good to go! --Kencaine 02:30, 24 April 2011 (BST)

5.4 Display Driver Board

Possibly doesn't apply to some, can't think of an example.

6 Game Specific Problems and Fixes

Example would be servo controller on Independence Day pinball

7 Repair Logs

Did you do a repair? Log it here as a possible solution for others.

7.1 Game Displays 000000 On Power Up and It's Not The Slam Switch

If you power the game on and all of the displays immediately display all zeros without strobing the problem is usually with the slam switch. However, if the slam switch modification has been done or the slam switch is working properly there is a problem with the switch matrix.

I had this problem on my Haunted House machine. I finally found that chip Z15 (7432) was bad.

I was fixing a kicker solenoid on the playfield, the playfield was still in the machine and fully in the upright position. While I was soldering the wire to the new solenoid I did not adequately protect the components below from a solder drip. Well, I did have a solder drip that landed right on a pop bumper driver board connector and shorted the connector. The short caused more than just this problem but for this narrative we will restrict to the slam/switch matrix problem.

Reading in other materials I recognized the problem as the slam switch issue. I used a logic probe to test other components and found the CPU board working, mostly as it should except for acting like the machine was slam tilted. There was little written about the problem outside of the slam switch. I decided to check the matrix by doing a diode check on all of the diodes in the switch matrix. When I did this, I found that many of the diodes were testing bad. These were being tested with the board removed from the machine.

Having replacement diodes in my parts drawer I decided that these must have gone bad during the short. I began unsoldering a few of the diodes. Once disconnected from the circuit board I remeasured the removed diodes and found the correct values on my meter, they were not bad. I then noticed that the bad diodes were all in the same row on the switch matrix. They all traced back to the Z15 chip. I replaced the Z15 7432 and the problem was resolved. --Kencaine 01:43, 24 April 2011 (BST)